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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbavegas View Post
    OK then you and the WOO know better than a guy who actually makes his living with these machine besides how can you say that playing more cards makes for a better PB%?
    Of course they have a theoretical payback percentage. How could he even think there isn't? Bingo definitely has calculatable odds for each pattern (depending on X pattern within Y balls drawn), and when you combine that with the prize amounts that gives you an expected return which is the same as a theoretical payout.

    The idea that a casino would install class II machines without knowing how much they're going to pay out is equally nutty.

    Perhaps he meant the payouts can change based on casinos modifying the "within Y balls drawn" which would have a big impact on payout percentage.

    And who said playing more cards results in a better payout percentage? If you're referring to the Wizard of Odds site (a highly respected statistician in the gambling world), everything he says there looks like legit advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbavegas View Post
    Probably the best explanation I have seen on Class II Bingo games. FYI: In several California casinos the NA tribes add Class II Bingo slots into their Class III (RNG) slots to get around the maximum slot machine rule that California has with the NA tribes. Apparently the Class II games don't count as "slot machines" in their total allowable slots-per0casino limit since class II games are really just a GIANT BINGO GAME.
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    We have some that do that here as well Slotspert, mainly WMS games for some reason especially the Colossal reels games

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random$$Slots View Post
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    Ainsworth - Rumble Rumble Bison - payback is between 81% - 92%. Very Tight range.

    Konami - Sumarine Victory - payback is between 82% - 96%
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    The original old school Mr Cashman games (with the Mr Cashman bonus feature) have a fixed payback of 92.5% when you are betting with the feature....if you aren't betting with the feature then it drops down to around 88%....

    Thanks for all the payback schedules on the thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAchance5 View Post
    The original old school Mr Cashman games (with the Mr Cashman bonus feature) have a fixed payback of 92.5% when you are betting with the feature....if you aren't betting with the feature then it drops down to around 88%....

    Thanks for all the payback schedules on the thread!
    The Mr Cashman games are part of the "old/orginal Aristocrat" line back from the late 1990's until late 2000's of MR WOO, ZORRO, Outback Jack, Safari, Mr Cashman, etc all in the low 90% payback for penny games. You can still find those games in several casinos inclding a carousel of 5 of those games al Ballys Las Vegas, east side of the casino, near the oxygen bar.
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    Bump for all the Slotfanatic newbees!
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    Pretty cool. Thanks for posting this and bumping it. My goal would be just to figure out which machines are highly volatile, medium and low because it seems that some slots are tight with large jackpot payouts occasionally and others pay out small wins over time, others like Buffalo I have found to be in between. I like the in between ones so that I can have opportunity for a handpay but I don't necessarily go bust while aiming for that jackpot.

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