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    Volatility--is there a list somewhere?

    Hi, everyone,

    I ran a search for "volatility" and found way too many sites to check, so I thought I'd just ask a few questions in hope that someone can either answer them or send me to a good source.

    Here goes:

    1. Is there a list somewhere of slots that would be considered more volatile, average, and less volatile?
    2. Is there a site that recommends how to play slots differently that are considered more, average, or less volatile?


    Thanks in advance for any direction you can supply.

    Mike

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    Hi Mike --

    I'm not sure if there's a list anywhere online or not -- initial google results don't come up with anything. PAR sheets have volatility indices on them to help casinos select the appropriate games for their desires. However, since PAR sheets are extremely difficult to find, that doesn't help us here.

    In general, most people have a list of volatile games in their head mostly from experience or seeing others' hits. The basic rule I live by is that if a machine is capable of providing ginormous win multipliers (think Awesome Reels or wicked winnings II) then it's going to be pretty volatile. Since everyone on this forum is an action junkie and/or addict, pretty much any game you see in video or picture form on this forum is likely to be volatile

    As far as how to play it, high volatility machines will have massive swings. The peaks will be euphoric, the valleys will be maddening. You can have two attitudes to high volatility games -- 1) Here's a couple $20s trying to catch lightning in a bottle and if not, I'm moving on or 2) I'm going big or going home, and this volatile machine will be the hill that I might die on.

    Just realize that sticking a $20 into a high volatility machine may not make your money last long, even at min-bet.

    Here's a series of good replies on this subject at SMF: http://www.slotmachinesforum.com/sho...-what-it-means

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    Hi, Scorcho,

    OK, so I guess I like "high" volatility machines. WW2 is my favorite, and I also like Ruby Slippers. In both cases, I've had some luck and won hundreds on 40 or 50 cent bets. But I guess that I'm not smart enough to read the pay tables before I try a game. A couple of my other favorites are Dean Martin's Wild Party and Shaman's Magic. While I've had some nice bonuses, the line hits seem to be even better at times on those games. I guess next visit I should look at the pay tables and see what they say. Would you happen to know these machines and whether you think they are high volatility or not? Can you name some similar games that you know to be "low" volatility so I can compare?

    Thanks,

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by OregonMike View Post
    Hi, Scorcho,

    OK, so I guess I like "high" volatility machines. WW2 is my favorite, and I also like Ruby Slippers. In both cases, I've had some luck and won hundreds on 40 or 50 cent bets. But I guess that I'm not smart enough to read the pay tables before I try a game. A couple of my other favorites are Dean Martin's Wild Party and Shaman's Magic. While I've had some nice bonuses, the line hits seem to be even better at times on those games. I guess next visit I should look at the pay tables and see what they say. Would you happen to know these machines and whether you think they are high volatility or not? Can you name some similar games that you know to be "low" volatility so I can compare?

    Thanks,

    Mike
    Hi Mike:

    You are asking a good question ... and the issue has not been addressed much by any of the slot companies. IGT used to rate the volatility on their website -- but not every game has it ... so, it's no very useful. You have also touched on another issue -- it's all relative. What is it being compared to.

    The easiest thing might be for you to post a list ... and we can try to sort out which ones are the highest volatility.

    The pay table along will tell you next to nothing about the volatility of a machine. The usualy suspects for monster wins are well known. Scorcho gave some good examples ... and a good description. Games like Great Eagle Returns, China Shores, Jungle Wild III, Wicked Winnings, etc.

    The industry generally feels that most players do not understand volatility -- and it is mainly a smaller group of players (like the players on the internet) who are most interested.

    Personally ... I'd love to see some kind of rating system. From my perspective, it would help me with deciding an appropriate bet.

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    Here's my list. I think most games will fall neatly into one of these 6 categories.

    Volatility level 1 - very few wins over 50X, high hit frequency

    Black Widow
    Golden Goddess
    Lil Red
    Spartacus


    Volatility level 2 - 50-100X wins more common, moderate hit frequency, slight potential for over 100x

    Cheeseburger
    Top Dollar
    Spinning Streak
    WOZ
    Hot Hot Penny
    Wolf Run
    Double Diamond
    Zeus 2
    Hearts of Venice
    Rome And Egypt
    DaVinci Diamonds
    Lord of the Rings/Two Towers
    Monopoly Up Up and Away


    Volatility Level 3 - Higher percentage of 50-250x wins, fewer small wins, very slight potential for over 250x

    Wheel of Fortune
    Dragon's Realm
    Zeus
    Thai Treasures
    Kitty Glitter
    Pelican Pete
    Miss Kitty
    50 Lions
    Shaman's Magic
    More Hearts/More Chili
    Spinning Streak Progressive
    Gems Gems Gems/Silver Sword
    Triple Double Diamond
    Lord of the Rings 3-Reel
    Goldfish 2
    Epic Monopoly
    Money Burst

    Volatility Level 4 - Chance at 100-500x wins, 10-50x wins reduced, very slight potential for over 500x

    Buffalo
    Timber Wolf
    Ruby Slippers
    Zeus 3
    Valiant Knight/Nautilus
    Kronos
    Bierhaus
    Buffalo Spirit
    Pompeii
    3x 4x 5x pay
    5 Times Pay
    Super Monopoly Money
    Monopoly Jackpot Station

    Volatility Level 5 - Slight chance at 200-1000x hits. Potential for up to 5000x hits. Long dry spells.

    Wicked Winnings II
    Whales of Cash
    Robin Hood
    Laredo
    Great Eagle Returns
    Cleopatra 2
    Figaro
    China Shores
    Electrifying Riches
    10 Times Pay
    Jungle Wild III

    Volatility Level 6 - Extreme high volatility. Capable of up to 20000x hits. Very long dry spells.

    Wicked Winnings 3
    Awesome Reels
    Last edited by kidprime; 03-04-2013 at 03:19 PM.

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    Kidprime,

    I really appreciate your taking the time to make a list like this, especially taking things into this many divisions. It really helps, and I think I'll print it up and take it with me on my next trip, which will be this week.

    Thanks again,

    Mike

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    great list Kidprime. I pretty much agree on most of everything you put down. great resource for the uninformed..

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    Rockin list KP! Looks pretty spot on to me. Only because I've played it a lot, I'd drop Jungle Wild II down a notch and add Jungle Wild III into #5 (only because you mentioned JW2). Great list!!!
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    kidprime, thanks so much for starting this list!

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    That list is definitely a "keeper" so thanks!

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