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    Just curious here.. You think harrahs Laughlin will be sold off too? I'd personally love to see that as a non CET property.. Just about any new owner has to be an improvement IMO..

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    Guess I will be staying at the Four Queens on Freemont... no resort fees....

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    Quote Originally Posted by commanderbunbun View Post
    Just curious here.. You think harrahs Laughlin will be sold off too? I'd personally love to see that as a non CET property.. Just about any new owner has to be an improvement IMO..
    I think they would not want the competition of that specialty market (Laughlin) so it will probably go. I think the RIO will be sold to a timeshare type of operator like they did with the Las Vegas Hilton (Now Westgate) since those rooms are big enough to become timeshare-style units.
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    There have been many complaints against such as Expedia since they don't list the amount of the resort fees for hotels they list. Then when a customer arrives at the destination they learn they have to pay a Resort Fee of up to $40 or more per day. There goes the bargain trip they paid for thru Expedia. Even though such as Expedia do list in a well hidden area the fact that your destination may charge a Resort Fee they don't list how much. So unfair. And Resort Fees are like baggage fees on airlines. A complete rip off.

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    I know this not something most people want to hear, but it doesnt matter if you bitch and vote with your feet. Vegas is not in dire straits

    This came up last year on one of the G2E panels I sat in on. I wont say who, or their brand, but the Resorts seem to think those that bitch over $30 a night in fees, or $15 to valet their car, are simply not the clientele they want to fill their rooms.

    Vegas room occupancy is almost always at 90% any day of the week, and 2018 was no different. The convention attendance is down 2 points, but the average tourist/gambler is up 2 points.

    Who do they want in those rooms? The people that will pay for fine dining, not use BOGO coupons at the buffet. The people that will pay for good seats at the big show, not those that use their monthly comp for the afternoon comedian. Those that will drink freely, top shelf, and pay for good cocktails. Not those that will slip a $20 in a slot, and hit the drink order button.

    Look, I agree these fees suck and they are misleading. But these multi-billion dollar companies with their multi-billion dollar resorts will lean on those that dont care about such fees, and scoff at those that refuse to pay an extra $30 for amenities while on vacation. They dont want you cheapos any way.

    Vegas is targeting the club kids, that will pay for bottle service, their rooms, eat the best food (so they can blog about it) and spend freely in the casino, without even knowing what a club card is for.

    If you are staying at The D downtown, instead of the Bellagio, because they dont charge the resort fee. Something tells me you are not the person Bellagio wants to target any way.

    Dont hate the messenger!

    Plan your vacation here in Chicago! Enjoy our 11% tax on anything you buy, the 27% tax you will pay on your room and the $100 a night to park your car. And if you want to take your car with you to expplore, feed our meters at $1.00 for 20 minutes. This is just the way life is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acklafan View Post
    There have been many complaints against such as Expedia since they don't list the amount of the resort fees for hotels they list. Then when a customer arrives at the destination they learn they have to pay a Resort Fee of up to $40 or more per day. There goes the bargain trip they paid for thru Expedia. Even though such as Expedia do list in a well hidden area the fact that your destination may charge a Resort Fee they don't list how much. So unfair. And Resort Fees are like baggage fees on airlines. A complete rip off.
    If you book through Expeida, the resort fees will be listed. And once you go to checkout, they will be shown for you to pay. And in the instances where you do not pay them upfront, it will always tell you "A fee of $40 per night is due, and will be collected upon checkin".

    If you are not in the habit of reading what you agree too, and being blindsided that resort fees exist in a tourist town, I dont feel bad for you. Just like I dont feel bad for the person that skips past the Pay for Luggage section while booking their tickets, then complains at the airport that they thought their Samsonite set would fly for free.

    The complaint is, that they are not added into the price shown online upfront duringa search. Which is the very reason why these fees became such a "thing".

    I hate them too! But ignorance doesnt get you very far these days.

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    tax Tax TAX!! fees Fees FEES!! greed Greed GREED!! .. sigh...
    Maybe I'll just stay home... !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grid View Post
    I know this not something most people want to hear, but it doesnt matter if you bitch and vote with your feet. Vegas is not in dire straits

    This came up last year on one of the G2E panels I sat in on. I wont say who, or their brand, but the Resorts seem to think those that bitch over $30 a night in fees, or $15 to valet their car, are simply not the clientele they want to fill their rooms.

    Vegas room occupancy is almost always at 90% any day of the week, and 2018 was no different. The convention attendance is down 2 points, but the average tourist/gambler is up 2 points.

    Who do they want in those rooms? The people that will pay for fine dining, not use BOGO coupons at the buffet. The people that will pay for good seats at the big show, not those that use their monthly comp for the afternoon comedian. Those that will drink freely, top shelf, and pay for good cocktails. Not those that will slip a $20 in a slot, and hit the drink order button.

    Look, I agree these fees suck and they are misleading. But these multi-billion dollar companies with their multi-billion dollar resorts will lean on those that dont care about such fees, and scoff at those that refuse to pay an extra $30 for amenities while on vacation. They dont want you cheapos any way.

    Vegas is targeting the club kids, that will pay for bottle service, their rooms, eat the best food (so they can blog about it) and spend freely in the casino, without even knowing what a club card is for.

    If you are staying at The D downtown, instead of the Bellagio, because they dont charge the resort fee. Something tells me you are not the person Bellagio wants to target any way.

    Dont hate the messenger!

    Plan your vacation here in Chicago! Enjoy our 11% tax on anything you buy, the 27% tax you will pay on your room and the $100 a night to park your car. And if you want to take your car with you to expplore, feed our meters at $1.00 for 20 minutes. This is just the way life is now.
    Great post Grid, you speak the truth. You know to a certain extent I can understand the casinos point of view. Without a doubt there are penny pinching peeps out there that want everything and don't want to spend anything. If I owned a casino I wouldn't want them either... However I think you'll agree that the reason for these fees is Not to get rid of the cheapies...
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    Always check with the players’ club before you check out. Last May, my Park MGM offer included no resort fees. My brother, who doesn’t gamble as much as me, added my name to his room. When we were leaving, they also took off his resort fees for all four nights based on MY gambling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich99 View Post
    Great post Grid, you speak the truth. You know to a certain extent I can understand the casinos point of view. Without a doubt there are penny pinching peeps out there that want everything and don't want to spend anything. If I owned a casino I wouldn't want them either... However I think you'll agree that the reason for these fees is Not to get rid of the cheapies...
    For sure its not to get rid of the Cheapos. Its a cash grab now, that started off as a way to get a higher listing on the travel sites by offering a cheaper room than others (by hiding the extra money you plan to collect via these fees)

    But, from the resort side, if the Cheapos refuse to stay at my place, because I charge $50 a night + $25 in fees, VS $75 no fees, purely based on principal alone, I'm Ok losing that business.

    I know they are stupid. The fact that Hooters Las Vegas charges $25 for a room, plus $37 in resort fees is just stupid. Nearly as stupid as what that $37 gets you. 2 "free" bottles of warm water, the ability to print your boarding pass (Like I need to do that each day, plus, I have a cell phone that works as a boarding pass) and access to their tiny gym. I pay $9.99 a month for X-Port Fitness back home, who is paying $37 a day, on vacation, to walk on the Hooters busted treadmill? Oh, and "free" wifi. The same wifi that is free in the casino there, and nearly every public space in vegas.

    Dont tell me I'm getting "Free" water and "Free" wifi when i am paying $37 for these things. How stupid do you think I am Hooters?

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