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    YouTube Shutting down Slot Video Channels

    Gambling Channels Are the Latest Victims of YouTube's Arbitrary Moderation Process

    "This is my full-time job. You spend so many years to build it up and they can just erase it with one button."
    Taylor Lorenz Jun 6, 2018
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    Days before he was set to begin a month-long promotional tour for his YouTube channel, Brian Christopher learned that his account had been abruptly terminated.
    In the two years since Christopher has been running BrianChristopherSlots, he’s produced more than 1,100 vlogs of himself gambling, mostly on slot machines, and racked up 50 million views and 80,000 subscribers.

    But then, last week, his account was suspended, along with many other prominent YouTube gambling channels. In an email, YouTube explained the suspension was due to “repeated or severe violations” of its community guidelines, which prohibit “violent or dangerous acts that have an inherent risk of serious physical harm or death.” (YouTube did not respond to requests for comment from The Atlantic.)
    Like many top creators, Christopher makes his full-time living from YouTube, and he’s terrified of losing his primary income source. He said he’s careful to get approval from the casinos he vlogs from as well as the slot-machine manufacturers before publishing his videos. He doesn’t swear, feature explicit content, or do anything else he thinks might be perceived as violating YouTube’s notoriously vague guidelines, which he and many creators can almost recite by heart.

    Christopher and other top creators are in a precarious position: Though their videos provide a steady stream of income to YouTube via advertising, they don’t work for YouTube directly, and the company has a long history of deleting channels, demonetizing videos or accounts without warning, and leaving creators with little to no recourse or explanation.

    In January, YouTube made sweeping, sudden changes to the qualifications it used to judge whether channels were eligible to earn money on the platform. Thousands of small channels lost their ability to generate money on YouTube overnight and had no way to appeal. For the vast majority of YouTube creators who aren’t members of YouTube’s top 3 percent, there’s almost no direct line of communication to the company: Creators get automated emails saying their channels are penalized. When they try to reach out to YouTube, rather than get a person, they get more automated responses. While some encourage their fans to tweet at YouTube’s various Twitter handles, that usually proves fruitless, too.

    This spring, some creatorsattempted to ban together and start a union, hoping that collective bargaining might help them better reach the company. Others simply quit the job entirely.
    Ben, a vetted volunteer “ trusted flagger,” who helps YouTube identify problematic content and offensive channels, said that after four years as a volunteer for YouTube, he’s seen tensions between YouTube and its creators peak in the past year.

    “YouTube needs to be more transparent in their policies and give in-depth information to creators,” he said. “If a YouTube Trusted Flagger can’t distinguish whether there has been a violation based on the public information they give out I cannot see how they could expect most users to do so either.”
    The YouTube gambling community isn’t massive, but its biggest channels have tens and sometimes hundreds of thousands of loyal and active fans, which allows them to broker brand deals with big-time casinos, gambling-machine manufacturers, and online gambling sites in Europe. After his channel was taken down, Christopher spent days trying to renegotiate deals he had made with casinos throughout his tour.

    “YouTube doing this stuff absolutely jeopardizes my business relationships,” Christopher said. “I’m in contact with the casinos I was supposed to visit, I’m trying to put them at ease and continue on Facebook. I know I haven’t lost my brand ... but it’s tough.”
    Christopher’s channel was reinstated shortly after he spoke to The Atlantic, but other popular gambling channels have received permanent or temporary bans, or have had features, such as the ability to live stream, revoked.

    “I’ve spoken with other channels, no one knows what’s happening,” said Christopher. “No one has any facts, including myself. No other channels know how to prevent this. They’re scared, they’re deleting videos saying ‘maybe these are ones that YouTube won’t like.’ They’re afraid to go live.” He added that even after he received an email saying his appeal was granted and channel reinstated, he wasn’t given any explanation for why the initial deletion occurred.

    Gambling YouTubers have taken to group chats, Twitter, and private messaging over the past several days, trying in vain to figure out why their channels are suddenly being targeted. “What I find awkward is no one is 💯 sure what’s going on. Everyone is just speculating,” one user wrote on a forum thread discussing the issue. “Also I don’t get how hard it is to contact anyone from YouTube it’s like their friggin invisible.”

    Kim Hultman, a Swedish YouTuber who runs the gambling channel LetsGiveitaspinTV said that he was mid live stream when he found out YouTube shut down his channel.
    “I checked my channel and it was gone. YouTube had shut it down completely. No notice,” he said. “I appealed and said I’ve been doing this over two years, I don’t understand why you’d decide to shut me down right now. They sent another generic mail saying we reviewed your appeal.”

    “This is my full-time job,” he added. “You spend so many years to build it up and they can just erase it with one button.”
    Since the first wave of bans, YouTubers said that they’ve felt a familiar wave of panic, knowing that they could be next. Though many attempts to diversify, YouTube’s platform is unique and many creators have been unsuccessful in their attempts to build audiences on other platforms to a similar scale.

    “You need something like YouTube to help people find your channel,” Raja, who runs the YouTube gambling channel Raja Slotssaid during a live stream shortly after his channel was deleted, then reinstated earlier this week. “We have explored other options, but those other platforms aren’t going to help grow a channel.”

    Christopher said that he hopes YouTube will soon realize the effect that even the smallest platform or policy changes can have on creators like him.
    “I just hope that YouTube comes through,” he said. “I just hope that they will open a dialogue with me ... I made them a ton of money over the past few years. For them to just close up shop with zero way of communication is a slap in the face.”

    Taylor Lorenz is a staff writer at The Atlantic, where she covers technology.
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    This is a topic being discussed at CasinoMeister, where I'm more active. Apparently YouTube has reinstated everybody's accounts so people can resume their "careers" as professional slot machine players in both the U.S. or Europe.

    I have a feeling this is far from over.
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    Here's another one from Forbes:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidsc.../#304dc37d7f66

    I can't show any sympathy for these people. They promote reckless and compulsive gambling. Mr. Mifsud's fan base of "Rudies" act as if nobody has ever had their lives destroyed by ludomania. As far as I'm concerned, Mr. Mifsud is just another gambling addict. People encouraging him in the comments section of his videos should be ashamed of themselves.

    I hope Mr. Mifsud kept his Canadian citizenship as all his "winnings" would remain tax-free.
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    very hard to say where it will go. on one hand Gambling laws & marketing laws are getting stricter - recent changes in UK and EU are perfect examples. on the other hand in legislated markets, big portion of TV promotions are dedicated to gambling, mainly sportsbetting but close enough.

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    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    They've been cracking down HARD on gun channels.

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    I think I'm not alone by saying I have a love/hate opinion of YouTube...
    Love the concept & all the vids.
    Proper or fair mgmt and communication at the very least is a Joke!
    Possibly the only solution would be serious competition...
    Maybe a few of us should pool some $$$ together and create a start up!
    How about "MyTube" .. ! lol
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    Last year 100% of my videos would get flagged and later approved after I filed for a manual review (each video required a separate request).

    Things slowly improved and for the past half year 100% of my videos have avoided getting flagged. I no longer have any trouble.

    I assume that YouTube’s automatic filters have improved, but it might also be that they categorize certain channels as “good” channels. I don’t know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Random$$Slots View Post
    Last year 100% of my videos would get flagged and later approved after I filed for a manual review (each video required a separate request).

    Things slowly improved and for the past half year 100% of my videos have avoided getting flagged. I no longer have any trouble.

    I assume that YouTube’s automatic filters have improved, but it might also be that they categorize certain channels as “good” channels. I don’t know.


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    The other "improvement" to You Tube is that you now need to go through two ads instead of one ad in order to actually see most videos. Annoying, but there is no free anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slotspert View Post
    The other "improvement" to You Tube is that you now need to go through two ads instead of one ad in order to actually see most videos. Annoying, but there is no free anymore.
    Perhaps you are referring to longer videos (10 minutes or longer). Shorter videos tend to only have one Ad at the start (pre-roll), and possibly one at the end (end-roll). If your video is 10 minutes or longer, YouTube then can insert one or more Ads in the middle (mid-roll).

    Many YouTubers discovered this "10 minute rule" a year ago and started to make their videos 10 minutes or longer. If your video is >10 minutes, YouTube gives the creator the option to specify points in the video where Ads can be placed (YouTube may, or may not place Ads there). You see the potential points in the video's timeline with little markers. Some YouTube creators try to put an Ad every minute or so, attempting to see if YouTube would place many Ads in the video.

    The side-effect is that many of the YouTube videos have been filled with all kinds of "filler" to get the length of a 5 minute video up to a 10+ minute video. This includes video of driving to the casino, etc., at the start.

    Others stuff videos from all kinds of games into a single video so that it exceeds 10 minutes. This practice is "OK" if viewers like such "assorted slots" in a video.

    I experimented with 10 minute videos a year ago and decided that it wasn't worth it. In fact, some of my raw videos of live play have been edited down from 10+ minutes to under 10 minutes because I take out some of the dead spins. I've decided that watching long stretches of dead spins, or tiny wins, isn't as interesting (however, I don't edit out any spins from a free game bonus round). If you see a little Hour Glass icon spinning near the Credit display, you know that some dead spins have been edited out.
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