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    Quote Originally Posted by Twenty4seven View Post
    What I find insulting is that the “commission authority” quoted in this article says they have no evidence tying less visitors to all these fees and changes. He then goes on to offer up other reasons for the decline. Some of those reasons may be true, but I can say this. My DW and I have gone to Vegas every year since 2010. But, we are not going this year and will not be going for the foreseeable future. Why? Because we have had enough of the nickel and dime stuff. We spend gobs of money in Vegas, and all this greedy money grab is enough. We already have plans to visit other regional casinos and other parts of the country. Not shockingly, we can visit 3 other regionals for the cost of our one trip to Vegas. I hope that others will follow this plan so the Vegas greeds will feel the pinch, but I fear that won’t be how this turns out.
    The logic of this "commission authority" equals the twisted conclusion of that Hawaii authority the other day who stated that hey, don't worry, an erupting volcano is no big deal. In other words - Come on down, tourists - bring the money and sensibility be damned.

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    In my opinion the Oct. 1 mass shooting is the big culprit, followed by all the pesky fees.

    However business is booming and money is flowing. Think renovations such as T-Mobile arena, MGM Park (Monte Carlo make over), new zip line, ... And yes, somebody will be paying for all this.

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    That is a great comparison feelinlucky. While I agree other factors have led to some decline, it is twisted to think that SOME of the decline isn’t related to the fees and other fleecing policies. Vegas will always go on though because for all of us who stop going or go less, there will be others to just take our place. Oh well, plenty of places to gamble throughout the country, and the world for that matter.

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    I partially blame Resort Fees on the Internet sites that listed hotels by price. A clever marketing weasel discovered that they could get a more favorable listing position by hiding some of the cost in the Resort Fee. It also allows them to send “free room” offers, but still charge $30 a night.

    Parking Fees in Vegas started in Downtown Vegas. People started to park in Casino lots to visit the Fremont Experience and parking became an issue.

    The Recession is also partly to blame. Casinos had to “raise prices” (i.e. tighten slots and table games) for short term gains; but long term erosion of their market.

    And, there are the ever growing number of casinos in almost every other State (and other countries, like in China, for that matter).

    Next are the aging demographics with shifting spending patterns, which casinos haven’t fully adjusted to.

    Mass shooting, mowing people down on sidewalks, and Casino robberies don’t help, either.

    All that said, I’ll still visit Vegas once in a while. I just stay in off-Strip casinos where parking is free, fees are a little less and slot paybacks are a little looser. Meantime, The Strip is getting less and less of my business - and I don’t miss the traffic.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Random$$Slots View Post
    I partially blame Resort Fees on the Internet sites that listed hotels by price. A clever marketing weasel discovered that they could get a more favorable listing position by hiding some of the cost in the Resort Fee. It also allows them to send “free room” offers, but still charge $30 a night.

    Parking Fees in Vegas started in Downtown Vegas. People started to park in Casino lots to visit the Fremont Experience and parking became an issue.

    The Recession is also partly to blame. Casinos had to “raise prices” (i.e. tighten slots and table games) for short term gains; but long term erosion of their market.

    And, there are the ever growing number of casinos in almost every other State (and other countries, like in China, for that matter).

    Next are the aging demographics with shifting spending patterns, which casinos haven’t fully adjusted to.

    Mass shooting, mowing people down on sidewalks, and Casino robberies don’t help, either.

    All that said, I’ll still visit Vegas once in a while. I just stay in off-Strip casinos where parking is free, fees are a little less and slot paybacks are a little looser. Meantime, The Strip is getting less and less of my business - and I don’t miss the traffic.




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    Good points, Random$$. The whole issue is much more complicated than appears at first glance. The American economy has changed and people are much more diverse in their attitudes and likes than they were 30 years ago.
    Disposable income for many Americans right now no longer exists. Foreign countries that banned gambling are now embracing it. China, Spain, Japan. I predict that in 20 years slot arcades will be the norm in all the world. It's a fun and cheap way to provide entertainment and an easy way to control people and bring the bucks back to Papa (the rich guys and government).

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