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    Angry Butt Out at Seneca Casinos Common Areas

    Effective Feb 15 2018, all Seneca Casino Properties will be smoke free at all eating establishments and common areas. I found this email in my junk bin today:

    We are revising our indoor smoking policy starting February 15, 2018. Effective next Thursday, all non-gaming areas including restaurants, retail shops, public concourses, meeting rooms, restrooms, and elevators are now designated as
    smoke-free zones.
    As always, there is non-smoking gaming available at all of our properties for your convenience.

    For those still looking to smoke,
    your butts are still permitted on the main gaming floor!

    Thank you,
    Seneca Resorts & Casinos


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    I don't understand why they just don't ban smoking everywhere. I know they have a niche market with smokers, but they turn off the majority of casual gamblers and tourists.


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    This seems to be a way to find a happy medium. We are completely smoke-free in all areas here (Canada), but I understand it's hard for some and they enjoy smoking while they play. I'm glad they have banned it in the restaurants ~ it ruins dining experiences for sure and people can just wait till they're back in the gaming area.
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    I think they're trying a balancing act hoping to keep everyone somewhat satisfied...
    All of the local "smoking" casino's in my area have long ago banned smoking in restaurants & common areas but as long as smokers have a section on the casino floor where they can "light up" they will adjust and be fine with it...
    Not too many years ago Atlantic City went 100% smoke free and took a huge hit. Casino revenues dropped dramatically and the state changed their decision to allow 25% of the casino for smokers.
    Years later the new Revel opened in AC a non smoking hotel & casino... That did not work out well for them so they eventually changed their policy and allowed a small percentage of their hotel rooms & casino floor smoking... But unfortunately as most of us know the Revel had other problems mainly due to poor planning and bad mgmt decisions...
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    I'm a smoker and I can't imagine they've allowed smoking in eating areas until now... it's been so long since smoking was allowed in any eating establishment here, my brain would fry if I tried to pick out a year (I can remember vaguely smoking at the table in a restaurant but God only knows when that was. And it seems disgusting to me now).

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    God, what a treat that would be. Sometimes when I am in the casino longer than 3-4 hours, my eyes start burning & turning red, I start coughing. When we go to the Indian Casinos, we only stay 2-3 nights. I would definitely extend the trip to a week if not for the smoke in the casino. Hopefully, sometime in the near future, the casinos can find space outdoors for smokers...a gazebo type structure with plants/trees, seating and ashtrays galore.

    Last trip I did sit next to a smoker with one of those smokeless cigarettes and I did not smell smoke....sigh.

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    I got excited, because all casinos in Ohio are smoke-free, and when we visit Caesars Windsor, we loved the smoke-free atmosphere.

    I'm only 37, but I remember the days of making dinner reservations where you'd have to say, five for non-smoking please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuffinCups View Post
    God, what a treat that would be. Sometimes when I am in the casino longer than 3-4 hours, my eyes start burning & turning red, I start coughing. When we go to the Indian Casinos, we only stay 2-3 nights. I would definitely extend the trip to a week if not for the smoke in the casino. Hopefully, sometime in the near future, the casinos can find space outdoors for smokers...a gazebo type structure with plants/trees, seating and ashtrays galore.

    Last trip I did sit next to a smoker with one of those smokeless cigarettes and I did not smell smoke....sigh.
    Del Lago Resort and Casino in New York State just did something bold to cater to their smokers. They installed slot machines outside in 2 of their smoking decks (think they got the idea from Louisiana). They still remain smoke free in the rest of the casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyboy View Post
    I don't understand why they just don't ban smoking everywhere. I know they have a niche market with smokers, but they turn off the majority of casual gamblers and tourists.


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    Itís easy to understand, itís about money. The casinos know what they are doing, they slice and dice and study every metric on their business on an ongoing basis. While you think it is a no-brainer that they should ban smoking everywhere....and you make that sound like the smart business move because that is what YOU would prefer....the facts donít support that. At all. There isnít a single non-smoking casino on the Vegas strip. If there was money to be made, there would be one. Or several. But thereís not. Revel in AC tried it, it was a miserable failure, they eventually allowed smoking, but it was too late. They donít exist anymore. There is one non-smoking casino in Biloxi (Palace) that chose to be 100% smoke free and try to compete with the others. The Palace is never busy, and does a fraction of the business their competitors do....but itís there if you want to go. You wonít have a hard time getting a room or finding an open machine or table. And there are plenty of casinos where the state law requires them to be 100% non-smoking. You could also choose to go there to gamble, if you want a smoke free environment. Just like people who live in those states and smoke can choose to go to another state, to a casino that allows smoking if they want to smoke while they gamble. The world consists of smokers and non-smokers, there are casinos where smoking is allowed and those where it is not. There are casinos with smoking and non-smoking sections. Pick your preference and go there. But to try to say a complete ban is what should happen and then try to justify it as a smart move by talking about who the casinos ďturn offĒ by allowing smoking is just factually incorrect. Whatever their policy, SOMEONE will be turned off by it....either a smoker or non-smoker. The fact that 99% of casinos allow smoking when it is their choice proves that a complete smoking ban is NOT the best business move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelotari View Post
    Itís easy to understand, itís about money. The casinos know what they are doing, they slice and dice and study every metric on their business on an ongoing basis. While you think it is a no-brainer that they should ban smoking everywhere....and you make that sound like the smart business move because that is what YOU would prefer....the facts donít support that. At all. There isnít a single non-smoking casino on the Vegas strip. If there was money to be made, there would be one. Or several. But thereís not. Revel in AC tried it, it was a miserable failure, they eventually allowed smoking, but it was too late. They donít exist anymore. There is one non-smoking casino in Biloxi (Palace) that chose to be 100% smoke free and try to compete with the others. The Palace is never busy, and does a fraction of the business their competitors do....but itís there if you want to go. You wonít have a hard time getting a room or finding an open machine or table. And there are plenty of casinos where the state law requires them to be 100% non-smoking. You could also choose to go there to gamble, if you want a smoke free environment. Just like people who live in those states and smoke can choose to go to another state, to a casino that allows smoking if they want to smoke while they gamble. The world consists of smokers and non-smokers, there are casinos where smoking is allowed and those where it is not. There are casinos with smoking and non-smoking sections. Pick your preference and go there. But to try to say a complete ban is what should happen and then try to justify it as a smart move by talking about who the casinos ďturn offĒ by allowing smoking is just factually incorrect. Whatever their policy, SOMEONE will be turned off by it....either a smoker or non-smoker. The fact that 99% of casinos allow smoking when it is their choice proves that a complete smoking ban is NOT the best business move.
    Ya,that being said that was not the only reason Revel shutdown.. and the smoking setup at some of the casinos in AC should be questioned (as like today this is a non-smoking section and tomorrow it is a smoking section). As a non-smoker I agree that there should be sections of the casino that are non-smoking and that are property ventilated.
    We all know that there are still way more smokers gambling, and any regular will tell you that you will see more 'action' on the smoking section vs. the non.
    I guess it all goes down into the design of the casino. Time will tell I guess.
    420 (pot) is about to get leaglized in Canada this summer, do you think they will allow it in the handful of the native casinos? (Yes there are some native casino you can smoke in up here) And if so.. how will they control the smell? I live across a 420er and my place reeks all the time. Non-smoker will hate this even more.

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