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    I'm not 100% sure on the randomness of VP, but I can tell you what I know. Every time you are dealt a hand, the RNG determines what cards are dealt from a standard 52-card deck. Once you make your hold selections (or no holds), the RNG picks your replacement cards from that same deck (meaning no duplicates can occur). So, as compared to slots, you actually do have impact in your choices/wins. This is for your standard Class III (Las Vegas style) casinos.

    Now, in locations that have Class II (bingo, lottery, pull tab based) VP games, it is different b/c the central server determines what your win is just like their slots. In this case, it wouldnt matter what you held because you are going to win what was already determined. In fact, I read an article about a guy who, in a Class II gaming facility, was dealt a Full House. As a test, he dumped it all and was dealt another Full House. The chances of that are very, very small. So, the system already knew what he was going to win and the game had to match it.

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    mhetrick, have you noticed at Sams Town or Eldorado if they allow free play on VP?

    I used to take my free play at Margaritaville and hit the VP machines. I usually turned FP into cash or even made a little extra. Last year I went back and the VP machines have no free play allowed signs on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CenTex View Post
    mhetrick, have you noticed at Sams Town or Eldorado if they allow free play on VP?

    I used to take my free play at Margaritaville and hit the VP machines. I usually turned FP into cash or even made a little extra. Last year I went back and the VP machines have no free play allowed signs on them.
    Yes, Sam’s Town and Eldorado will let you use free play on Most (if not all) of their VP machines. None are 100% payback schedules in the first place. In fact, some of Eldorado’s machines on the 3rd floor will let you download the free play and immediately cash it out!
    Margaritaville does have some banks where free play is accepted. Again, these are machines that have lower payback schedules typically. These machines are located in the area in front of where Dragon Spin currently is on the back wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhetrick View Post
    I'm not 100% sure on the randomness of VP, but I can tell you what I know. Every time you are dealt a hand, the RNG determines what cards are dealt from a standard 52-card deck. Once you make your hold selections (or no holds), the RNG picks your replacement cards from that same deck (meaning no duplicates can occur). So, as compared to slots, you actually do have impact in your choices/wins. This is for your standard Class III (Las Vegas style) casinos.

    Now, in locations that have Class II (bingo, lottery, pull tab based) VP games, it is different b/c the central server determines what your win is just like their slots. In this case, it wouldnt matter what you held because you are going to win what was already determined. In fact, I read an article about a guy who, in a Class II gaming facility, was dealt a Full House. As a test, he dumped it all and was dealt another Full House. The chances of that are very, very small. So, the system already knew what he was going to win and the game had to match it.
    Thank you I’ve been doing fairly well “training/ practicing” on the freeslots site sometimes I ignore the warning signal and got a better outcome than the system predicted Luck I suppose


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    My advice is: practice a lot and then some. Carefully check the pay tables.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moto View Post
    My advice is: practice a lot and then some. Carefully check the pay tables.

    Good luck!
    i have been and just hit the royals i wish i could post it (on the freeslots.com) so perhaps im ready for the real deal ? ? ?
    i've read somewhere pick a game that pays fullhouse 9 / flush 6 ? ?? and i guess hitting the royals is just shear luck ! ?

    Thank you !
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXIMUM BET View Post
    i have been and just hit the royals i wish i could post it (on the freeslots.com) so perhaps im ready for the real deal ? ? ?
    i've read somewhere pick a game that pays fullhouse 9 / flush 6 ? ?? and i guess hitting the royals is just shear luck ! ?

    Thank you !
    The payback tables you should play vary with the type of game (Jacks or Better, Bonus, Double Bonus, etc). You can find all the table paybacks for specific games at Vp2free.com.

    Generally speaking, you would want to find a 9/6 (9 full house & 6 flush on a 1 credit bet) Jacks or Better machine. This would mean the number of coins bet multiply the base number. (Ie 45/30 at 5 coins bet).
    Most casinos that have this game table have it in machines that are $1 or higher. You will see the table lowered in smaller denominations.

    This would be what’s referred to as a “full pay game”.

    In Double Bonus, you’d want to find a 10/7 (10 full House/7 flush in 1 credit bet). Again, it would be a full pay game.

    Tons of information is available at vp2free.com, so I would advise you to check it out as well to gain more knowledge into VP.


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    My advice is to play single line VP, until you feel comfy enough to switch to triple play.
    I’m not a fan of JOB, and prefer double double that pays bigger for 4 of a kind, and much better for certain 4’s of a kind.

    I will play bonus in multiplayer games, but paid the price lately on ultimate X five play when I was dealt 4 aces with a 4, it was $540 win with the multipliers, but if it was dealt under the same conditions playing dbl-dbl it would have been $2400. The reason I switched is because dbl-dbl was ice cold at that moment.

    I play for 4 of kinds so I prefer dbl-dbl. The downfall is it pays less for 2 pair, which magnifies in multiplier games.

    In the wonderful world of VP you pick your poisons and preferences.

    Good luck.

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    I agree with the class 2 I play VP at about 96.75% accuracy overall and playing at our local Class 2 bingo casino ( that is an oxymoron of sorts lol) The cards are totally randoms and you can go quite a wile before you get a Wild Deuce in DW and it is a pain in the rear. did one session lost my reear end and never played it again there ...

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    I would absolutely avoid playing VP at a class 2 facility across the board. While it is normally a better game at most casinos, due to the regulations with the bingo or pull tab determination it does skew the game more negative for the player than normal VP would.


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