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    Yes, the crowds at Maryland Live suck... I went yesterday and had to wait an hour to get on a machine because people were holding seats, texting on their phone a lot between playing, etc. And the rudest people in the whole place are the employees themselves... I think I'm just going to go on a gambling break... all the casinos in Maryland generally suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wisherman View Post
    Tbh ... the place in Maryland that I feel luckier at, if that is such a thing, is the hole in a wall known as Perryville. Had a full board of turtles there last time, along with a few other nice hits.
    I was thinking of driving up to Perryville one day just for the heck of it since I've never been....now maybe I will.

    Quote Originally Posted by newenglander82 View Post
    Yes, the crowds at Maryland Live suck... I went yesterday and had to wait an hour to get on a machine because people were holding seats, texting on their phone a lot between playing, etc. And the rudest people in the whole place are the employees themselves... I think I'm just going to go on a gambling break... all the casinos in Maryland generally suck.
    I was there Saturday, yeah very crowded. Which game were you waiting to get on? I usually walk back to where the Buffalo Gold games are....but forget it....they are always busy with people just waiting around to get on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyTurn View Post
    I was thinking of driving up to Perryville one day just for the heck of it since I've never been....now maybe I will.


    I was there Saturday, yeah very crowded. Which game were you waiting to get on? I usually walk back to where the Buffalo Gold games are....but forget it....they are always busy with people just waiting around to get on.
    I was waiting on the Buffalo games too! They are never available... then I tried the Willy Wonka games... had to wait a while but was finally able to get on. Everything was just insanely crowded and nobody was really winning from what I could tell... I certainly wasn't.

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    https://www.casino.org/news/maryland...-harbors-sails

    Surprise surprise... give terrible comps, treat people like garbage and make your slots ridiculously tight and people won't gamble there despite it being a billion dollar property... I have to say I am loving the fact that a casino attached to a crappy mall is beating MGM just a couple months after MGM's opening... serves them right, people aren't idiots.

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    Factoring in that February had three less days than January and it should be noted that MGM's daily gaming revenue actually increased month over month. Not quite a sign that people aren't gambling there yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Coaster View Post
    Factoring in that February had three less days than January and it should be noted that MGM's daily gaming revenue actually increased month over month. Not quite a sign that people aren't gambling there yet.
    When you build a $1.4 billion property right next to Washington, DC and a casino that is literally connected to a low-end mall in the suburbs beats you in revenue just 2 months after your opening... that's a pretty big sign. People reverted back to their normal casinos because it's obvious how terrible MGM is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newenglander82 View Post
    When you build a $1.4 billion property right next to Washington, DC and a casino that is literally connected to a low-end mall in the suburbs beats you in revenue just 2 months after your opening... that's a pretty big sign. People reverted back to their normal casinos because it's obvious how terrible MGM is.
    Well, I wouldn't consider Arundel Mills a low end mall...it's an outlet mall like Potomac Mills outside D.C. But since it's opening, it has attracted the bus trip crowd, those who like shopping at the outlets. So it brings people from all over, not just locals. I think the fact that it is "attached" to the mall is pretty brilliant. It sits right off Rt. 100 and 295 (Baltimore-Wash. Pkwy) so convenient from many locations. I think these factors, plus it doesn't seem to take itself too seriously maybe why it does well. There is no pretentiousness there, it's a come as you are kind of place, plus it's pretty big....if you like slots, they got'em.

    I haven't been to MGM yet, but not in a real hurry to get there either. Will probably check it out when the weather is nicer because my husband and I enjoy going to the National Harbor occasionally, there are some decent restaurants there. I think the initial press about MGM has not been that great...crowded, tight slots, etc., so this does not help. But it new, it may need more time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyTurn View Post
    Well, I wouldn't consider Arundel Mills a low end mall...it's an outlet mall like Potomac Mills outside D.C. But since it's opening, it has attracted the bus trip crowd, those who like shopping at the outlets. So it brings people from all over, not just locals. I think the fact that it is "attached" to the mall is pretty brilliant. It sits right off Rt. 100 and 295 (Baltimore-Wash. Pkwy) so convenient from many locations. I think these factors, plus it doesn't seem to take itself too seriously maybe why it does well. There is no pretentiousness there, it's a come as you are kind of place, plus it's pretty big....if you like slots, they got'em.

    I haven't been to MGM yet, but not in a real hurry to get there either. Will probably check it out when the weather is nicer because my husband and I enjoy going to the National Harbor occasionally, there are some decent restaurants there. I think the initial press about MGM has not been that great...crowded, tight slots, etc., so this does not help. But it new, it may need more time.

    Well it's pretty awful so don't get your hopes up. Here's why I think it is profoundly worse than the average casino:

    1) Very tight slots, as most people who go there note.

    2) Slot machines are way too close to each other, it's ridiculous and feels uncomfortable.

    3) Very slow service... if something goes wrong with your machine, expect to wait a half hour for someone to come help you.

    4) Dangerous... run a youtube search for MGM National Harbor and fights come up.

    5) Generally overpriced.

    There is definitely a reason why a casino in Anne Arundel is generating more revenue than a shiny new billion dollar casino that is far closer to the lucrative DC/NoVa markets... people will travel further for a better experience. MGM's product is an insult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newenglander82 View Post
    People reverted back to their normal casinos because it's obvious how terrible MGM is.
    Both casino's numbers went up. I fail to see how you can be so confident that Live's increase comes from MGM.

    It might be or it might not be but I don't think it's obvious based on these numbers so soon after MGM opened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Coaster View Post
    Both casino's numbers went up. I fail to see how you can be so confident that Live's increase comes from MGM.

    It might be or it might not be but I don't think it's obvious based on these numbers so soon after MGM opened.
    I think it's fairly obvious that people are going back to their old casinos based not just on anecdotal evidence of everyone locally complaining about MGM but also the fact that MGM was projected to take a much bigger share of the other local casino's revenue away. That didn't happen, and unexpectedly Maryland Live is the highest revenue generator again. Also, the data you are relying on is pretty irrelevant, as you have to look year over year at the same months... Maryland Live is down 10% or so from last February, it's numbers are NOT up... but that is less than projected, meaning MGM did not take away as much business as people expected - because they are offering a crappy product. There are no year over year numbers for MGM as MGM was not around last february, so there is no basis to say MGM's "numbers went up" either. Comparing january numbers to february doesn't say much. Regardless, it's pretty obvious to anyone that is unbiased that MGM hasn't lived up to expectations, and they deserve every bit of their failure to do so.

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