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    Casinos adjusting payouts?

    I noticed an interesting intro post by a new member (ilovechocolate), who said multiple employees at a local casino stated that payback was turned down on weekdays. We know with SBG this is feasible... And if multiple employees are saying it, it seems unlikely that they are all mistaken or lying. Has anyone else heard this kind of thing at their locals?

    Very curious. We all have our opinions on whether this is likely or logical--we've covered that ground to death, so I'm not asking that. My question is more specifically whether others have heard this kind of thing from casino sources.

    It wouldn't enable us to generalize across casinos, but it would at least suggest that those who believe they see a pattern could *possibly* be right.

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    I've never had an employee of a casino tell me or hint to me that paybacks are adjusted intra-week.

    I've heard from other players that they think the paybacks are adjusted. It seems that most think that paybacks are turned up on weekdays, but others like the one you reference suggest they are turned down on weekdays.

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    Yes but it was quickly descended upon by the expert vultures as made up by an employee who knew nothing, mine was actually on the busiest of weekends and when special events were going on, especially after an event when the crowd came to the casino floor.

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    Buckle your seatbelt, tobiathan. The true believers will be getting their knives out.

    Actually, I have heard the opposite: the locals lower the paybacks Friday and Saturday nights.
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    I think people grossly overestimate how many machines are tied to a server and are able to have their paybacks adjusted willy-nilly.

    Hint: think about how much work and costs it would take to run Windows 8 on a PC made 15 years ago for Windows 98.
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    Paybacks are not adjusted. I think it is illegal for anyone to adjust payouts on any machine. Everything is set to pay on some kind of average or whatever its called automatically regardless of the time of day or night or weekday or weekend. The minute you press the spin button, the RNG has the win for you. People can hit multiple jackpots in the same day on one machine or multiple big wins in a row like I experienced on Friday night. Also a machine can be alive paying good for hours and then all of the sudden not pay for a while. If you find a machine that is giving you a lot of dead spins, you know people won on it earlier. It is all timing

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    I've not heard that anywhere from employees. I hear gamblers complaining all the time!! I don't really think it feasible, either. 800 to 4000 slots in a casino. I don't think they would take the time to change each one a couple of times per week. There is no magic button whereby all games can be changed at the same time. Hold percentages are enough that the casinos do well, if they have butts in the seats.

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    It depends on where the information came from. I've noticed the most reliable information comes from the people cleaning the rest rooms, they seem to have a finger on the pulse of all the machines in the casino.

    2nd most reliable are the ashtray emptiers, they get around the floor pretty often.

    Least reliable are the slot attendants. They're usually too busy chatting about who go with who at the party last weekend or what's going to happen at the party this weekend.

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    I haven't heard anyone, anywhere, say that this occurs. (except players of course)

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    Here's the post. It's interesting to note that it was at a Native American casino, where it's not so much constrained by state laws but more by inter tribe agreements I believe.

    http://slotfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=10570
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